Managers, defense bicker over whether Trump knew Pence was evacuated
Sens. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, and Susan Collins, R-Maine, asked both Trump's team and the House managers whether the former president knew that former Vice President Mike Pence had been escorted out of the Senate chamber for his safety when Trump sent a "disparaging tweet." Romney was the only Republican to vote to impeach Trump in the last trial.
House manager Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, insisted Trump "had to know." Castro pointed to a call the former president made to Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R.-Ala., saying that during the call, Tuberville told the president.
"And after Wednesday's trial portion concluded, as Sen. Tuberville spoke to reporters and confirmed the call he had with the president and did not dispute Manager Cicilline’s description in any way that there was a call between he and the president around the time that Mike Pence was being ushered out of the chamber, and that was shortly after 2:00 p.m.," Castro said. "And Sen. Tuberville specifically said he told the president, 'Mr. President, they just took the vice president out. I've got to go.'"
However, Michael van der Veen insisted that there is no evidence presented by the House managers that the president knew Pence had been escorted out.
"There's nothing at all on the record at this time," van der Veen said. "Because the House failed to do even minimal amount of due diligence."





